Friday, November 6, 2009

"JANE DOE'S" 1st FACEBOOK MESSAGE (UNCUT)

LISTED BELOW IS THE INITIAL LETTER "JANE DOE," A DISGRUNTLED MEMBER OF THE TEMPLE OF PRAISE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION SENT ME ON FACEBOOK? AS YOU WILL BE ABLE TO SEE, I DID NOT EDIT NOR DID I TAKE ANYTHING SHE MENTIONED IN HER LETTER OUT OF CONTEXT IN MY 18-PART RESPONSE, WHICH IS WHAT SHE NOW CLAIMS AFTER SEEING MY RESPONSE TO HER. IT’S JUST SO TYPICAL OF DILUTED PEOPLE WHO DON’T WANNA FESS UP TO THE TRUTH TO DEFLECT FROM IT BY WAY OF USING THE WHOLE, “OOOH YOU TOOK MY WORDS OUT OF CONTEXT” COP-OUT. WUUUDEVER.
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FROM: "JANE DOE"
TO: Saranne ...
DATE: September 19 at 10:52am Report



" A few questions for you: How do you know the relationship with God that these people have? How do you know that God is not dealing with them? How do you know what they are going to the Temple to talk about? What are you really angry about? How do you know what the Bishop's meetings are about? How do you know what God has in store for these “men of the world”? How do you know that God is not using The Honorable Bishop Glen A. Staples to get these men saved if they aren’t? Zechariah 9:1The burden of the word of the LORD in the land of Hadrach, and Damascus [shall be] the rest thereof: when the eyes of man, as of all the tribes of Israel, [shall be] toward the LORD. That is exactly what’s happening now. Even the heathen is looking to and for God. Science, as futile as their attempt may be, are trying to PROVE His existence by their means. The eyes of man…AND Israel. Every knee shall bow and Every tongue shall confess that He is God, whether they believe it right now or not!You keep addressing what you aren't trying to do, but that's exactly what you are doing. If you’re not guilty of these things that you say that you’re not doing, why address it? Someone told me that the guilty always speak. No where in the Word of God does it say that God is with them if they have wealth? Why is it that every man that is spoken of in the Bible was wealthy? That’s not a Glen Staples teaching, that’s common, God given sense. David was a KING, and people are still searching for Solomon’s treasures. Maybe you left too soon, because he has been preaching on holiness for a minute now. You have the spirit of the Pharisee wherein you keep going on what you THINK the people of God are or are not doing, but read the story of the publican and the Pharisee. Luke 18:14. Which one are you? Who are you to examine someone else's fruit or lack thereof? Paul spoke about restoring the one who falls, not kicking them out. You don't know what is going on and Bishop Glen A. Staples cannot remove anyone's anointing from them. He is doing what he is supposed to and that is to love them into submission. You don’t know if they’re rebuked after doing something stupid. I had the same issue until I found out that people do get in trouble, however, it is God who punishes, not the church. He didn’t take the crown from David, but He did give him consequences for he did not get to build the Temple like he was supposed to. Moses was so much a man of God, despite his attitude problem that God struck Miriam with leprosy for talking bad about Moses. Moses didn’t see the promised land and those were his consequences.You know so much about the Bible, but who that was great in God was faultless? Are you faultless? Are you working out YOUR OWN SALVATION so that you won't be overcome by the same things that you're accusing the Bishop or anyone else of? We are not to be of the world, but who is going to save the world if we don't go into it? Jesus didn't hang with the Pharisee and Sadducee, He hung with sinners and was talked about for doing it. Matthew 11:18&1918For John came neither eating nor drinking, and they say, 'He has a demon.' 19The Son of Man came eating and drinking, and they say, 'Here is a glutton and a drunkard, a friend of tax collectors and "sinners." ' But wisdom is proved right by her actions."I am in no way comparing Bishop Staples with Jesus, but we are to live as He did—to look like Him when the Father looks down at us, and one of the things that He did was kick it with sinners in an attempt to win them over to God. Paul said that he became all things to all people for the purposes of God. 1Corinthians 9:19-23 19Though I am free and belong to no man, I make myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God's law but am under Christ's law), so as to win those not having the law. 22To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all men so that by all possible means I might save some. 23I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.You have to meet them where they are. You do not just throw people away because they don't live the way that YOU don't think that they should. The meeting of the people of God is not always going to be about God in that there are other things to talk about. One thing is to be educated and that is one thing that Cornell West is…educated. God said that His people perish for a lack of knowledge. Bishop is to teach us the Word, maybe Dr. West is there to teach something else. And before you get to yapping about what’s going on at the Temple…people that can’t afford to pay for the convocation can still come, and sweetie, I am not in a recession. You may be broke, but God is supplying all my needs according to His RICHES in Glory. I don’t even make a lot of money, but I can afford to pay for myself and someone else to go to this “unholy convocation”. We are not in Ancient Israel. It costs to do stuff now. You know the Word…money answereth all things. At the end of the day, we, even as members of the Temple of Praise are not going to be judged for whatever it is that you THINK Bishop Glen A. Staples is or is not doing. I do not follow Bishop Glen A. Staples, I follow the God that I see in him. If there is something that is said that is not of God, me, having the Spirit of God myself, will know and can rightly divide the Word of Truth. Even Peter said some stuff that he wasn’t supposed to say and did some stuff that he wasn’t supposed to do, but Jesus still built His church upon him. We are accountable for our own actions and so are you. Bishop does not teach us to act a monkey and as a member, I refuse to give you fuel. Those people who cussed you out are angry…I am too, but I can better express myself without using those words. No diss to my Temple Members, but you know that Bishop would not condone any of that. I’m angry, but I’m scared for you, Miriam. I believe that Bishop says to keep your mouth off of the man of God for several reasons, one being that YOU RUN FOLK AWAY FROM THE CHURCH AS A WHOLE WHEN YOU KEEP “EXPOSING” PEOPLE. Duuh, all of this is just fuel for those who want God but can’t seem to find Him because of the “sin” of the church. WELL, PEOPLE MAKE UP THE CHURCH!!!! And since Jesus is the only one that lived that was faultless, we’re just going to have to wait a while for a perfect world. Wow, this was long, but I just want to ask you a couple more questions: 1. Who did it? Who made you so angry that left, but still come from time to time and check the site, etc? Seems to me that someone who had so much disdain for The Temple would stay completely away from it.2. What do you think will happen from this? There are people out here that are like minded, but there are also people who are “descendents of Peter” who will hurt you for their Bishop’s sake. Not a threat by any means, just saying that since you were a member, you know how people feel about their Bishop.I’m praying that you are really sent of God because if you’re not and God is really on Bishops side…God Bless you and I hope you don’t delete this simply because it isn’t in agreement with what you’re pushing. "

"JANE DOE'S" 2nd FACEBOOK MESSAGE (UNCUT)

I ONLY RESPONDED TO THE INITIAL EMAIL "JANE DOE" SENT ME IN THE DETAILED MATTER IN WHICH YOU SEE BELOW, DIRECTLY FOLLOWING MY INTRODUCTION ON THIS DISCUSSION. THEREFORE, YOU WILL NOT SEE A "DIRECT" ADDRESS TO ANYTHING SHE "SPECIFICALLY" STATES IN THIS SECOND EMAIL.

THIS MESSAGE WAS SENT TO ME ONLY AFTER I BREIFLY RESPONDED BACK TO THE INITIAL FB MESSAGE, LETTING MS. DOE KNOW THAT I WOULD GET BACK TO HER SHORTLY WITH A DETAIL RESPONSE TO "ALL" OF HER CONCERNS ADDRESSED IN THE INTIAL FB MESSAGE . IN THAT RESPONSE, I DID HOWEVER ANSWER "SOME" OF THE QUESTIONS AND KINDLY EXPLAINED TO MS. DOE THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO RESPOND TO "ALL" OF HER QUESTIONS THE WAY I WANTED TO AT THAT TIME. MS. DOE THEN MADE THE ASSUMPTION THAT I WAS SIMPLY STALLING HERE AND FURTHERMORE ASSUMED THAT AT THAT POINT, WHATEVER I HAD TO SAY IN RESPONSE TO HER MANY QUESTIONS, WERE NO LONGER WORTHY OF HER ATTENTION.

AFTER READING THIS SECOND FB MESSAGE THAT YOU ARE ALSO ABOUT TO READ, I REALIZED THEN THAT MS. DOE'S INTENT IN SENDING THE INITIAL MESSAGE WAS NEVER TO ASK ME QUESTIONS SHE SINCERELY WANTED TO HAVE ANSWERED, BUT MERELY TO TAKE ON A SNIDE AND CRAFTY TONE IN SPEWING OUT VEILED INSULTS WHILE ATTEMPTING TO GIVE ME A PIECE OF HER MIND, LIKE SO MANY OTHER DISGRUNTLED T.O.P. MEMBERS HAVE ALREADY DONE. NOW TELL ME, IS THAT WHAT THE LORD COMMANDS? HE SAID TO ALWAYS BE READY TO LISTEN, SLOW TO SPEAK, SLOW TO ANGER AND ALWAYS READY FOR RECONCILIATION, BUT MS. DOE IN HER IMPATIENCE TOWARDS ME FOR NOT ANSWERING HER QUESTIONS IN THE TIMEFRAME “SHE" SAW FIT, SAID THE FOLLOWING:
.................................................................................................................................................................... FROM: "JANE DOE"
TO: Saranne ...
DATE: September 19 at 9:17pm Report

" None of my questions were rhetorical. I really want you to answer them. And you did answer one of them. You don't know these folks personally so you don't know what they're going through with God. Bishop Staples is not doing anything wrong by GETTING THESE MEN IN A CHURCH. You don't know what God is going to do with this situation. The gifts of God are without repentance so even if they are not born again, doesn't negate the fact that they have something God given that the People of God can benefit from.Matthew 7 says that their fruit will show who they are, but that is not saying that we will know their hearts. Whether Steve Harvey's jokes are dirty or not, doesn't make them any less true. What he talks about is true. Peter cursed and was violent but God still revealed His truth to him and him only. All you have on Steve Harvey is his cussing andhis issue about his ex and new wife. If that was pre his acknowledgement of Christ then its null and void. You have become so high minded that you can't even see the fault in what you are doing. We are to be indignant about sin, no doubt about it, but how does anyone come out of it if we stick our noses so far up in the air that we can't see when they're crying for help? Did you read the story FROM THE MOUTH OF YESHUA, about the Publican and the Pharisee? Do you know who you are in that story? It kills me how folk come to the point where they think they've arrived and are sinless...Are you sinless, Saranne? Seriously, that question is not rhetorical either. Even if you don't involve yourself in anything fleshly, your attitude toward these men is sinful. Yes it is. The healthy don't need a physician. Do you not go to a doctor because they're profession is considered by some to be playing God? I was too at a point, where I looked at folk crazy when they did this or that and I found out about it. I have BIG problems with adulterers and abusers of the bretheren, however, I still have fault. May not be the same fault as theirs, but fault nonetheless. And when I got to the point also, that I tried to do EVERYTHING right, I ended up angry and mean. Why? Because its almost impossible. I may not do anything with my hands, but my mind may go wherever it wants to. What I'm trying to get you to understand is that there is nothing that you can do or say that will get me to believe that Bishop's getting these so called sinners in a church is wrong. That's how I see it. Maybe I'm stupid, but I think that God can turn a nasty situation into a beautiful one. They may get filled with the Holy Ghost and "turn from their wicked ways". The New Testament is also full of writings and stories about sinners being used. What was Paul's thorn, Saranne? In so many words, God told him not to even worry about it. To continue to live for and acknowledge Him and everything will be alright. Cornell West knows what Bishop believes of Christ; they've met. You don't know what God is doing with them even now as they prepare to come. All you know is what you see. Have faith that God has this thing under control.At the end of the day, I'm not even worried about what you say of Bishop, Dr. West, or Mr. Harvey, what I'm worried about and what I think you fail to see is what this does to the Body of Christ as a whole. This just gave another waverer reason not to join ANY church. The Temple of Praise is not the only church, but now someone isn't going to go to any church. As long as we call ourselves "contending for the faith" no one will get any, for faith cometh by hearing and that by the Word of God and how can they hear if there be no preacher? If we took everyone out of the church that committed a sin, there would be no one in the building. You don't have to like what's going on at the Temple. If you don't like it, don't come, but don't hinder anyone else from coming to Christ whether it be by way of The Temple or some other house.No need to address anything else I said, I'm done. I just thought I'd be polite and reply to your message. I understand your issues with what's going on and I don't want you to think that I do, but consider yourself before you get on someone else. Seriously. This is not to sweep under the rug what others do, but what really can we do about it? Like I said, if we remove all that do something, then we won't have anyone. "